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== Origins ==
== Origins ==
The origins of this kinship system date back before the split between the Asconic and Manthic language branches, evidenced by the fact that both cultural groups have the same kad system with the same names.
The origins of this kinship system date back before the split between the Asconic and Manthic language branches, evidenced by the fact that both groups have the same kad names. It is evident from the etymology of these names that [[Khots|Khot]] culture was a strong influence in their development, as they all trace their origin to Khot ''muraar'' (clans). It is believed that kads arose as the idea that Asco-Manthian people were descended or otherwise related to Khots in some way was getting traction. When the muraar would come in contact with the Asco-Manthians, these would informally "adopt" them and claim a common ancestry.


== Vocabulary ==
== Vocabulary ==
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|+Asconian kinship vocabulary and cognates
|+Asconian kinship vocabulary and cognates
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |Relationship to ego
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |Relationship to ego
! rowspan="2" |Asconian term
! rowspan="2" |Asconian
! rowspan="2" |Manth
! colspan="3" |Cognates
! colspan="3" |Cognates
! rowspan="2" |PNE Root
! rowspan="2" |PNE Root
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!Brother
!Brother
|''naroth, nar''
|''naroth, nar''
|''narot, næm''
|''nen, enni''
|''nen, enni''
|''neää''
|''neää''
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!Sister
!Sister
|''faroth, far''
|''faroth, far''
|''farot, fæm''
|''an, anna''
|''an, anna''
|''uoo''
|''uoo''
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!Male parallel cousin<ref>Child of parent's same-sex sibling (mother's sister or father's brother)</ref>
!Male parallel cousin<ref>Child of parent's same-sex sibling (mother's sister or father's brother)</ref>
|''ulnan''
|''ulnan''
|''ylnæm''
|''lynen''
|''lynen''
|''unoaa''
|''unoaa''
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!Female parallel cousin
!Female parallel cousin
|''ulfan''
|''ulfan''
|''ylfæm''
|''lyban''
|''lyban''
|''uhuoo''
|''uhuoo''
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!Male cross cousin<ref>Child of parent's opposite-sex sibling (father's sister or mother's brother)</ref>
!Male cross cousin<ref>Child of parent's opposite-sex sibling (father's sister or mother's brother)</ref>
|''murnan''
|''murnan''
|''myrnæm''
|''murnen, munnen''
|''murnen, munnen''
|''murnoaa''
|''murnoaa''
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!Female cross cousin
!Female cross cousin
|''murfan''
|''murfan''
|''myrfæm''
|''murban''
|''murban''
|''muhruoo''
|''muhruoo''
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!Father
!Father
|''nanen, nan''
|''nanen, nan''
|''nønym''
|''nenin, enin, non''
|''nenin, enin, non''
|''neänuu''
|''neänuu''
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!Mother
!Mother
|''fanen, fan''
|''fanen, fan''
|''fønym''
|''anin, aban, bab''
|''anin, aban, bab''
|''uonuu''
|''uonuu''
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!Maternal uncle
!Maternal uncle
|''mawer''
|''mawer''
|''mar''
|''mabr''
|''mabr''
|''muo''
|''muo''
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!Maternal aunt
!Maternal aunt
|''faken''
|''faken''
|''fakn''
|''einan, nanu''
|''einan, nanu''
|''eäknu''
|''eäknu''
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!Paternal uncle
!Paternal uncle
|''noken''
|''noken''
|''nokn''
|''noenan, nan''
|''noenan, nan''
|''noaknu''
|''noaknu''
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!Paternal aunt
!Paternal aunt
|''falg''
|''falg''
|''falv''
|''alb''
|''alb''
|''huo''
|''huo''
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!Maternal grandfather
!Maternal grandfather
|''thochelth''
|''thochelth''
|''tohalt''
|''hósd, tod''
|''hósd, tod''
|''toas''
|''toas''
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!Maternal grandmother
!Maternal grandmother
|''fawer''
|''fawer''
|''fahar''
|''abyr''
|''abyr''
|''uokru''
|''uokru''
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!Paternal grandfather
!Paternal grandfather
|''nawer''
|''nawer''
|''nahar''
|''nebyr''
|''nebyr''
|''neäkru''
|''neäkru''
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!Paternal grandmother
!Paternal grandmother
|''lochelth''
|''lochelth''
|''lohalt''
|''llior, lol''
|''llior, lol''
|''loal''
|''loal''
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! rowspan="6" |Children's generation
! rowspan="6" |Children's generation
!Son
!Son
|''tier''
|''wier''
|''hvir''
|''piar''
|''piar''
|''kjeär''
|''kjeär''
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!Daughter
!Daughter
|''wąrk''
|''wąrk''
|''hvar''
|''pár''
|''pár''
|''kaar''
|''kaar''
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|-
|-
!Nephew<ref name=":0">Both the child of a sibling and of a parallel cousin.</ref>
!Nephew<ref name=":0">Both the child of a sibling and of a parallel cousin.</ref>
|''ultier''
|''ulwier''
|''ylhvir''
|''lybiar''
|''lybiar''
|''ukjoar''
|''ukjoar''
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!Niece<ref name=":0" />
!Niece<ref name=":0" />
|''ulwąrk''
|''ulwąrk''
|''ulhvar''
|''lybár''
|''lybár''
|''ukaar''
|''ukaar''
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|-
|-
!Cross cousin's son
!Cross cousin's son
|''murtier''
|''murwier''
|''myrhvir''
|''murbiar''
|''murbiar''
|''murkjoar''
|''murkjoar''
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!Cross cousin's daughter
!Cross cousin's daughter
|''murwąrk''
|''murwąrk''
|''murhvar''
|''murbár''
|''murbár''
|''murkaar''
|''murkaar''
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There are six recognised kads in Asco-Manthian society.
There are six recognised kads in Asco-Manthian society.


WIP
* [[Ächder]] (Ascon)/Æchrytyr (Manth), tracing their origins to the [[Exürtür clan]].
* [[Melergeched]]/Mølørkylked from [[Khot]] ''[[Cosmic wolf|mölör xülx xeed]]'' "great wolf of the night sky."
* wip


== Notes ==
== Notes ==

Revision as of 19:44, 15 November 2025

Asco-Manthian kinship is a patrilineal kinship system used by Asco-Manthian societies, the largest of which being Asconians. Being Namuno-Ethian peoples, their vocabulary reflects, for the most part, that of Proto-Namuno-Ethian. However, Asco-Manthian kinship differs significantly from those of related cultures in that it employs a system of social classes, called kads (Ascon: kade, sg. kad). Every genn (family, clan) forms part of one of six kads, passed down through the male line. People cannot marry within their same kad, even if they are of a different genn, as they are considered extended family.

Origins

The origins of this kinship system date back before the split between the Asconic and Manthic language branches, evidenced by the fact that both groups have the same kad names. It is evident from the etymology of these names that Khot culture was a strong influence in their development, as they all trace their origin to Khot muraar (clans). It is believed that kads arose as the idea that Asco-Manthian people were descended or otherwise related to Khots in some way was getting traction. When the muraar would come in contact with the Asco-Manthians, these would informally "adopt" them and claim a common ancestry.

Vocabulary

Kinship vocabulary in Asco-Manthic society bears close similarity to those of other Namuno-Ethian cultures.

Asconian kinship vocabulary and cognates
Relationship to ego Asconian Manth Cognates PNE Root
Phyrean Toamts Ragham
Same generation Brother naroth, nar narot, næm nen, enni neää naṃ *ném̥h₁s
Sister faroth, far farot, fæm an, anna uoo paṃ *pám̥h₁s
Male parallel cousin[1] ulnan ylnæm lynen unoaa ṛnaṃ *l̥ném̥h₁s
Female parallel cousin ulfan ylfæm lyban uhuoo ṛpaṃ *l̥pám̥h₁s
Male cross cousin[2] murnan myrnæm murnen, munnen murnoaa murnaṃ *murném̥h₁s
Female cross cousin murfan myrfæm murban muhruoo murpaṃ *murpám̥h₁s
Parents' generation Father nanen, nan nønym nenin, enin, non neänuu nanuṃ *nénuh₂m̥h₁s, *nénes
Mother fanen, fan fønym anin, aban, bab uonuu panuṃ *pánuh₂m̥h₁s, *pápas
Maternal uncle mawer mar mabr muo maṭra *mákʷros, *mamás
Maternal aunt faken fakn einan, nanu eäknu pagna *pégnos
Paternal uncle noken nokn noenan, nan noaknu nagna *nógnos
Paternal aunt falg falv alb huo falṭa *fálkʷos, *fafás
Grandparents' generation Maternal grandfather thochelth tohalt hósd, tod toas sāsta *sṓstos, *tótos
Maternal grandmother fawer fahar abyr uokru paṭra *pákʷh₄ros
Paternal grandfather nawer nahar nebyr neäkru naṭra *nékʷh₄ros
Paternal grandmother lochelth lohalt llior, lol loal śyara *lʰyóros, *lólos
Children's generation Son wier hvir piar kjeär ṭyara *kʷyéros
Daughter wąrk hvar pár kaar ṭara *kʷáh₄ros
Nephew[3] ulwier ylhvir lybiar ukjoar ṛṭyara *l̥kʷyéros
Niece[3] ulwąrk ulhvar lybár ukaar ṛṭara *l̥kʷáh₄ros
Cross cousin's son murwier myrhvir murbiar murkjoar murṭyara *murkʷyéros
Cross cousin's daughter murwąrk murhvar murbár murkaar murṭara *murkʷáh₄ros

Kads

There are six recognised kads in Asco-Manthian society.

Notes

  1. Child of parent's same-sex sibling (mother's sister or father's brother)
  2. Child of parent's opposite-sex sibling (father's sister or mother's brother)
  3. 3.0 3.1 Both the child of a sibling and of a parallel cousin.